Franken: Ban politicians from ever becoming lobbyists

Al Franken has come out with a new ad in his embattled Minnesota Senate bid:

The gist of it is responding to the question of how to deal with the epidemic of ex-politicians using their contacts and influence to make obscene amounts of money after their political careers.

Let's reflect on this.

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Right now hundreds of former Senators and Congressman are lobbying for big oil and special interests in Washington.  No wonder gas is at $4 a gallon.

Possibly the most notorious beneficiaries of post-political life lobbying is the Carlyle Group, which has hosted board spots for such luminaries as George H.W. Bush, James Baker III, John Major (former PM of Great Britain), and our own George W. Bush before he became President.

Now, there will always be loopholes in these laws; it's unfair to force former politicians to pretend like their years of contact-building never existed, and even former politicians have to feed their families, but I do think that Al is onto something here: So many of the problems we're seeing in the death throes of old politics typified by the John McCain campaign are being caused by ex-politicians like Phil Gramm who basically overstay their tenure in the political arena and find methods of interfering with our lives and politics even after they have lost the peoples' mandate.  By beginning the process of weaning ex-politicians from the teat of lobbying, we can, perhaps, get these people to re-join the real private sector.

George Washington despised career politicians.  He was reputed to have created the Order of Cinncinatus, a society devoted to "citizen soldiers" who would do their duty for their country then go back to their farms or other businesses to improve their communities.  Mr. Franken (and, incidentally, Jesse Ventura)actually typifies this spirit, having made his name in another arena; it seems doubtful that he'd find reasons to hang around Washington once his term or terms are over, should he succeed.

So, what do you good people say?

PS: Go to Al Franken's website and get the word out!


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Should politicians be banned from lobbying permanently?
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important election (none / 0)

It's a disgrace that Norm Coleman holds the seat that once belonged to Paul Wellstone. We owe Senator Coleman and the GOP quite a bit for what they did in 2002 to get this seat. Let's see to it that they are paid back in full.


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by pollbuster on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:22:41 PM EST

True enough (2.00 / 1)

This is one reason I'm actually happy if Ventura gets in the race.  He will spend a lot of time criticizing Coleman, and not a lot of time ripping on Franken.  The guy hates incumbancy, that's just the way he is.

I'm not opposed to opening a few new fronts on ol' Norm.


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by Dracomicron on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:40:36 PM EST
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Wow. (2.00 / 1)

Now THIS is an idea I can get behind.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:50:47 PM EST

Bah! (2.00 / 1)

Not behind enough to rec, I see. :P


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by Dracomicron on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:00:23 PM EST
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Re: Bah! (none / 0)

Done, plus bonus mojo for not doing it before.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:11:38 PM EST
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Hee, the squeaky wheel (none / 0)

got greased.

I don't actually care much about getting on the rec list or the like, but Franken does need all the help he can get.


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by Dracomicron on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:14:29 PM EST
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Re: Dumb idea (none / 0)

I can see a 5-year ban -- even a 10 year ban.  But a lifetime ban?  I don't think what a politician did 25 years ago should disqualify them from a lobbying job.


by Brad G on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:56:05 PM EST

Start with a high number (2.00 / 2)

In negotiations, when you want a high number, you always start with a much, much higher number.  By the time you're done negotiating, you'll walk away with what you really wanted all along.

Right now there's a 2 year ban; if we ever want to see your 5 or 10 years out of a Congress that would be voting against its own interests, we need to start with "forever."


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by Dracomicron on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 04:59:16 PM EST
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That's like Republicans ... (none / 0)

... starting with 1,000,000 years in Iraq, and eventually it gets down to 40 or 50 years.  When you negotiate, you have to start with a reasonable position to show you are willing to compromise.


by Brad G on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:15:11 PM EST
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I wouldn't compare this to Iraq (none / 0)

Seriously, we're talking about rich peoples' methods of getting richer, not a war where thousands die.

I contend that "forver" is a reasonable ethical stand to begin from.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:21:07 PM EST
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Re: Dumb idea (none / 0)

I don't think it would be constitutional either.


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by kasjogren on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:03:09 PM EST
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Re: Dumb idea (none / 0)

agreed. Life-time ban would not pass the courts.


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by WashStateBlue on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 06:15:31 PM EST
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Re: Franken: Ban politicians from ever becoming lo (none / 0)

is it just me that believes a Franken election would make C-span Senate the most watched channel website?


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by nogo postal on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:19:00 PM EST

Quite possibly (none / 0)

I mean, we're stuck with political comedians already, this time we'd have a professional instead of amateurs.


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by Dracomicron on Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 05:23:42 PM EST
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